Timothy
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2007-10-15T16:18:26Z
Is anybody interested in RD Tabs supporting other protocols/services than RDP? Such as VNC, SSH, etc.? There are some libraries out there I could link into pretty easily, but it would require a lot of reworking some of RD Tabs' innards. 🙂
kevster555
2007-10-18T04:10:36Z
I for one would be interested in SSH and if poss HTTP/HTTPS. Have to work with a lot of Cisco CLI devices and would make one admin tool a good thing.

Is there any way to utilise Putty (I am sure you will of heard of this one - http://chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ ) for SSH/telnet tabs and IE/Firefox for HTTP/HTTPS ?

Keep up the excellent work
Krash_Control
2007-10-18T05:01:53Z
I'll add a vote for SSH and VNC.

@ Kevster, what's wrong with using a browser for HTTP/HTTPS? Isn't that just going to add bloat to RD Tabs?
kevster555
2007-10-19T05:05:24Z
krash_control wrote:

@ Kevster, what's wrong with using a browser for HTTP/HTTPS?



Know what you are saying but would make a real nice all in one admin console. Could use it as a replacement shell for Ops I was thinking....
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2007-10-19T11:25:20Z
Kevster/krash_control - Adding a "browser" would be trivial since DotNet has a built-in browser module (IE) that can be embedded in Forms apps. That's how RD Tabs Update downloads files. 🙂 I'm just not sure if it's scoped outside of RD Tabs' mission. Although I suppose it's not much different than the embedded browser control for MMC's. I'll definitely take that under consideration. If I added something like that, it'd definitely not be feature-rich because otherwise I'm just reinventing the browser (which has been done numerous times). It'll probably just be a URL and nothing more.
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2007-10-19T11:26:48Z
Just FYI, SSH would be pretty complicated because I'd have to figure out how to do some sort of terminal emulation, but I'm researching that currently. I think there are already open source VNC controls out there, so that may not be very complicated. I'll keep you all updated on that.

Using PuTTY would be pretty complicated because it's a raw Win32 app and RD Tabs is a DotNet app.
Krash_Control
2007-10-24T04:13:38Z
I love RD Tabs for what it does, Remote Desktop. VNC in it would be great! And if you do go down the VNC route, please check out www.ultranvnc.com . In my opinion it is the best VNC client/server out there with much more functionality than RealVNC. It is open source as well. Though I am not sure how that would tie in with your licensing.

As for the browser thing, any chance of maybe making it and add-on? Maybe as an extra DLL that you put in the RD Tabs directory. RD Tabs is brilliant as it is, and I think all these other non RD features may just "bloat" this excellent app.

To be honest though, I'd give up all these other features if you'd work on the sharing of favourites. It would invaluable to us. I have already converted a couple of the guys here to using RD Tabs 🙂
Timothy
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2007-10-25T12:32:10Z
Plug-ins are exactly the route I would go. It would be like a "DLL" that you just put into a folder and RD Tabs loads it. It's not set up currently to support that, but I plan on eventually standardizing the way tabs work (including how they tie into favorites and so on) so that it's just a matter of filling in the blanks with an interface.

The licensing probably wouldn't be a big deal since I can package plugins and the main app separately.

I don't have anything against OpenSource, it's just that I am tying into and redistributing a Microsoft component, so I have to be careful how I license RD Tabs as to not violate the Microsoft licensing, at least for the core download. Once you start doing plug-ins, it's not a big deal because they are distributed and licensed separately.

Can you explain what you mean by "sharing" favorites? You can currently export and import any favorite or favorites from the Favorites Manager. You can even encrypt them to safely transmit favorites with passwords. About the only thing you can't do is generate a "RDP" type of file that automatically loads and connects on double-click. But I really should add that. 🙂
Krash_Control
2007-10-31T04:46:40Z
Hi Timothy

What I meant by sharing favourites is to basically have one central location where the favourites are kept, and everyone can "share" them. It would be great for a helpdesk etc. I know it's in your Roadmap, but only for version 3 I think 😞

Timothy
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2007-10-31T08:11:22Z
I can push it back. The roadmap is fluid. 🙂 It sounded like a fun idea to me, but I prioritize based on what people are requesting and the level of difficulty in implementing. Since you are requesting, I can make this a 2.2 feature and I might split the feature-set in 2.2 into two parts (so there would be a 2.3) and the release schedule will become accelerated.

Thanks for participating in the forums and letting me know what you think!
Krash_Control
2007-11-01T11:14:16Z
That's great! Looking forward to trying out the new versions. I will install the new Alpha version once I have my new PC stabilised a bit 🙂 But this is DEFINITELY the ultimate Remote Desktop tool 😉
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2007-11-01T16:32:53Z
It's almost "stable" enough to use... I got all the replaced controls wired back up today. Just need to finish up a few bugs I've found and the alpha will be ready. Which is going to be right on time because I start late nights of work Monday through most of the rest of the year. 🙂
Skipmeister
2008-04-22T09:18:27Z
Figured I'd put in a note and see if anything more was moving on the other tools... Have really gotten used to RDTabs and brought a number of people onto it 🙂 Adding the bulk import was awesome and has eased the addition of sessions dramatically. The next "best" thing for me is captured on this thread - integrated SSH/Telnet such as a Putty application 🙂 Applications I work with tend to bridge both RDP and Telnet/SSH so idea of doing both from same client has a lot of value :)

I realize that this takes it away from being 'just' a RDP based tool - but figured I'd add my 2 cents and ask about current thought around this! 🙂
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2008-04-23T21:02:54Z
If somebody can dig up a free/open source SSH/Telnet API that I can hook into, I'd find that useful myself. I can't hook into PuTTY because (afaik) it can't be hosted as a COM or .Net control within a hosting .Net application, but I could be completely wrong about that.

I did find a really good VNC open API, so that will certainly make its way into RD Tabs 3.0/4.0 (not sure where it falls on the list of priorities).

I'm in the same situation as you. lol. I use remote desktop to all my servers, and SSH/telnet to all my routers, switches, and firewalls. 🙂 Of course if we deploy some 2008 Server Core deployments, SSH might be useful for that too, certainly in a tabbed interface. PuTTY is great, but sorely lacking in tabbiness!
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2008-06-15T16:46:42Z
Timothy wrote:

Is anybody interested in RD Tabs supporting other protocols/services than RDP? Such as VNC, SSH, etc.? There are some libraries out there I could link into pretty easily, but it would require a lot of reworking some of RD Tabs' innards. :-)



VMRC support would be great!
Krash_Control
2008-06-17T04:02:50Z
I'd love the SSH support within RD Tabs. Especially if they can be called from favourites. Putty is great and it's fast, but it's a pain to save favourites and I always have RD Tabs open anyway. So, in response to your question for the free SSH & Telnet API, these might help.

(I've posted different links to some of the same stuff but it gives different info on each page and you might "discover" something else on there 🙂 )

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/IP/sharpssh.aspx 
http://www.tamirgal.com/...e/dev.aspx?Item=SharpSsh 
http://www.csharpopensource.com/granados.aspx 
http://www.csharpopensource.com/dotnettelnet.aspx 
http://csharp-source.net...n-source/network-clients 
kasper4lyf
2008-09-23T12:35:43Z
just tossing in my 2 cents.
SSH, would be great considering I also do Cisco IOS devices.
VNC, This one is almost a given since it is very popular in both the business world and the personal.
HTTP/HTTPS, well those would be a nice to have but not critical. (although there is a lot to be said about keeping it all in one app.)I dont envision people using RD Tabs as a replacement browser, but those who do use it to support multiple worlds and connections it would be nice to just open a TAB and connect and be done, than to have to open an Exploder window.

I also read a post about a central Favorites repository, that would be cool to have, but the export and import does help.

I would however like to ask for a favorites button or link to access them from the connection window section and not just the Menu Bar. (again, would be nice but no biggie)

Keep up the good work, RDP is by far the Best remote Connection tool out there, and if you keep to the road map you have posted there will be no other utility that will even come close.

Timothy for President!!!
Timothy
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2008-09-23T16:19:08Z
Putting in a browser control is trivial, so it will probably be an option in the "tools" tab idea I'm floating around for a future version. Similar to how you can you specify a web link in the MMC. The MMC makes a lousy browser, but sometimes it's nice to keep your Router/Switch web interfaces (for example) in the same spot as your other MMC tools (ADU&C and so on). RD Tabs will also be a lousy browser (no back/forward, history, searching, or any other fun controls, for example), but if you want to have a certain interface in the same app, you can. :-)

Yes, centralized favorites is coming. In its most basic form, it will be a central file share where you use NTFS permissions to control access (for modifications) and the client RD Tabs will just sync its local favorites with the central favorites. I'm also considering a more advanced version that will use a MS-SQL connection to store the favorites. You could run SQL Express on a central server and that would provide more granular control of permissions, transaction safe modifications, the ability to store edit history, and more.
kasper4lyf
2008-11-24T12:46:34Z
kasper4lyf wrote:

just tossing in my 2 cents.
HTTP/HTTPS, well those would be a nice to have but not critical. (although there is a lot to be said about keeping it all in one app.)I dont envision people using RD Tabs as a replacement browser, but those who do use it to support multiple worlds and connections it would be nice to just open a TAB and connect and be done, than to have to open an Exploder window.

Timothy for President!!!




The one thing that comes to mind for HTTPS would be setting up remote boxes via iLo or some of the other low level connection tools that can be used to recover from OS issues. It would be nice to just be able to open a new Tab and connect to an iLo port.

Any word on the centralized favorites?
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2008-11-25T21:23:59Z
kasper4lyf wrote:

Any word on the centralized favorites?



That feature is slated for version 2.3. Development on 2.2 is going pretty slow due to a currently demanding schedule, but I promise I am still actively developing RD Tabs!
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